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excuse me my baby and I watched the

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newest documentary about about the

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Mothman

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of Point Pleasant put out by small town

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monsters who we had we had that director

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and I think writer on the show a few

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months ago when he was actually I think

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was he just finishing raising money for

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the movie yeah that's correct

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and I miss Tariq I mistakenly invited

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him on the show because I don't know how

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to read Kickstarter suggesting that he

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needed a few more thousand dollars and

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but he far exceeded what he needed so he

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just kind of came on the show to

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[\h__\h] with us anyways because he's a

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good guy

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um I think after our show he still he

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got like an extra like 3.5 thousand

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dollars so hopefully we contributed to

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some of that I mean he already uh he's

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the Mothman coming out net well it just

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came out it just got released and

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premiered but he has a invasives at

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Chestnut Ridge coming down so there was

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a - good - part of us coming out of his

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fall yeah um and I watched the Mothman

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documentary the news ones out I'll post

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a link in the description very well done

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it was filmed very well I tweeted to the

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guy cuz I was actually quite

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enthusiastic about this that it was very

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is a very well crafted and researched

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documentary about Mothman winces in

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history had various interviews with

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people who came in contact with the

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various paranormal encounters beat

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Mothman or alien encounters it's very

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well put together it was about an hour

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hour and 15 minutes um I guess I was

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actually kind of left wanting a little

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bit more I actually was kind of left

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wanting some conclusions there were no

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conclusions really drawn from this so if

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you want to kind of learn into the

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beginning like just explain the the

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Mothman background for any new listeners

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and for me who needs a refresher because

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I think I've just seen the Kevin Costner

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movie yeah well I can play some clips I

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ended up

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procured cultivated from this and this

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might set it up a little bit about what

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the origins of the Mothman or even just

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Point Pleasant in West Virginia is about

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and this goes a little deep but it's uh

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narrated by Kevin Costner that's not

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true at all that's actually just a

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blatant lie but I made that up yeah well

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we'll carry on and here is the first

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little clip from the Mothman documentary

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chief cornstalk you know was was a

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Shawnee hey wait wait wait time out what

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chief cornstalk

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yeah yeah they go back they go back to

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like colonial times when the the

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settlers were coming in and chasing the

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Native Americans out of West Virginia so

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it goes pretty far back yeah you're

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actually just kind of have to listen to

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it and then aim

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everybody goes sorry that's just a crazy

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day I've never heard anything like it

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chief cornstalk yeah that's my nickname

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yes not you're not like the chief of

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police he's not like chief cornstalk

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yeah he's innocent lost hog this is like

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a Native American not like you know

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chief you know hot dog or something like

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that this is captain hot dog here yeah

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this is a Native American okay unless

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you want you show a little respect okay

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yes okay thank you felt really

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insensitive I'm going to continue with

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this clip chief cornstalk you know was

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was a Shawnee chief who was reportedly

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murdered by some

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settlers over a land dispute in a son

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the legend is told that upon his dying

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breath that he cursed you know the town

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of Point Pleasant for 200 years but I

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think that you know of all towns have

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their share of problems and tragedies

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and things like that first time it was

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hard I was in a play in the early 1900

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we family tore down a local grade school

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closet they didn't know about we found

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in play in 1923 that the entire town

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settled on the hamster and in that play

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when the big thing just points out

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getting shot and cursing full clauses so

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that's kind of a older kind of history

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of what's going on in Point Pleasant

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like that there's an urban legend or a

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rural legend there right there in this

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town and it's a smaller town so people

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talk and it's very easy for legends to

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get built out of gossip possibly not

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saying what that is what this is but

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even in town that Jeff and I grew up in

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there is a place that was a supposed

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supernatural place called Rogue rogue

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Hollow where we would go with there's

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various tales of a ghost or creature

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maybe bridge hi baby bridge Devil's

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Triangle and we would go back there all

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the time and as us as teenagers you know

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we're a little bit more open to the idea

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we'd be out there all the time and try

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to [\h__\h] with each other and so you can

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only imagine you know in a small towns

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stories like that do go around and so

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the more story here the more it becomes

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real so I don't know that plays into it

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at all granted there's a lot more

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interesting sightings that are happening

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here in the 1960s at Point Pleasant that

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happened where Jeff and I grew up but

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that mentality might still exist where

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there's the town's folks talking amongst

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each other oh my god chief cornstalk

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cursed this town and that explains all

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the misfortune that will befall us yes

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wait Haiti didn't uh in the 700 Pat

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about haiti's earthquake was a result of

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them being devil worshipers or whatever

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exactly it happens all the time I mean

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you can find God's wrath and anything

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you want I mean I mean I'm sure Pat

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Robertson said you know the the gays are

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being killed by AIDS because of God oh

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yeah you've gotta have that on record

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multiple times yeah so I mean you can

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say it whether it's an Indian chief

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curse in the town now granted it might

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have a little more impact if you're a

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bunch of settlers and you just shot an

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Indian chief and his dying breath is I

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curse you yeah well that might affect me

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I probably wouldn't like that one bit in

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fact I'd rather I'd rather kill somebody

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fast enough Slade couldn't curse me

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hopefully she came right in the head

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yeah Sherman head or at least choke em

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so they can't talk crowd that's the

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trick you got to prevent the held hold

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their hand so they can't spell it out in

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the air either don't you curse me no

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sign language don't mouth anything no

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cursing you have you learned anything

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from killing shaman Jesus Christ right

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never give a shaman a dying breath uh so

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this this next clip kind of goes into

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some early sightings of the Mothman and

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or Birdman and what people have

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around those you know good part is the

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the interview original witnesses from

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when the incident actually occurred

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mm-hmm they go into some pretty

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interesting stuff no doubt now Joe um

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before I please but what what exactly do

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you know about the Mothman sightings or

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anything like that I mean you don't

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follow this so what do you know I know I

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just remember that bridge scene with the

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Kevin Costner from the movie I remember

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the moss on the cover of the movie I

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don't remember a whole lot about it

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other than it was like paranormal about

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it so the background err stuff that

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you're getting is really good because I

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do I just don't know anything about it

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okay I don't know if it's actually like

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a moth like is it a giant flying moth

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type creature I don't know if it's like

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they just call him that because he like

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may be covered in dust or something no

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well hopefully this is he hang around

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lights you know

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banging around against light posts and

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don't know about that specifically but I

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don't think it's a literal Mothman it's

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just the name okay like that I like the

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idea of a Mothman those just kind of

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like bumping into the you know store for

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once at night that's a big goofy but I

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second clip here hey

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century with frequent disasters

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befalling 20 pleasant rumors about a

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bizarre Birdman began to circulate the

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moon startling fact about these Birdman

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stories is that they occur over 50 years

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1960s professor James K Jones Glenville

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State College documented multiple

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sightings of the Birdman in his book

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haunted Valley and Warfel males of

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Appalachia the sightings began around

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1914 with the creature being described

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as a large bird with the head of a man

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and a wings grant of at least a dozen

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feet he was said to be of monstrous size

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and was covered in dark reddish feathers

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that glistened in the sunlight according

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to Jones sightings of the Birdman

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persisted well into the 1940s where it

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was reported by Masuka move along the

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Ohio River just outside of the width

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Ukraine were envelope to a tragic

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occurrence so that's a kind of a

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down-low on how the sightings of the

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Mothman pre looted horrible events or

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you saw the Mothman after a horrible

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event beat a flood a bridge collapsing

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or something like that but they saw that

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as a bad omen and there's various

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witness testimony about encountering

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this Mothman a lot of them and Jeff

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correct me if I'm wrong a lot of the

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witnesses were people driving on the

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road and seeing something overhead and

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how the Mothman was actually kind of

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following along with the car hovering

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over top and almost dive-bombing at time

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and kind of almost testing the car in

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its reaction as if it were prey not

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really dive bomb or it would also really

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would have did with a lot of the

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sightings it would they would keep it

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would keep pace next to the car no

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matter how fast they would go we'd

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always keep pace and kind of looking at

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them yeah and there were reports like

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some of the guys were going you know

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like 90 to 100 miles an hour and this

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thing was keeping pace there's also

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various witness accounts of walking and

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accidentally coming upon the Mothman and

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this thing taking off straight up

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vertically as is that we're a helicopter

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bizarre things like that and this thing

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flying in maneuvering in ways where it

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could be viewed like a bird but also

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vertical takeoff is not something you

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typically see with a with a bird so

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bizarre kind of weird things like that

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and definitely uh what they do report is

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a large creature with in at least a ten

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foot wing wingspan so that's a big

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[\h__\h] bird Joe that sounds

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pretty bit I wonder if the yeah that you

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would probably just want to drink that

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with a white wine if you were able to

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catch it and get that thing in the oven

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sounds like it could be good

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sure absolutely I mean why not

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of basted it yeah you definitely want to

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lock in those flavors yeah you're

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looking for like turkey man mm-hmm

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so I want to tell you wake me up when we

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get to turkey man and he's almost

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finished in lobster man lobster man pig

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man let's get Guy Fieri down here and

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open up a restaurant guy here welcome to

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crypto town we're gonna go hunt the

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Mothman and baste it I like that the

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crypto buffet you could have like you

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know Mothman cutlets and Bigfoot cutlets

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and Mothman drumsticks and stuff like

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that but in this documentary they talk

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about like people were very concerned

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and word spread and people did come in

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with guns and rifles willing to hunt as

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Mothman and they're like well we shoot

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do we get to keep it and can we kill too

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you know like they were they were up in

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arms they wanted this thing dead at all

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cost

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they were well done I think that's the

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police they were talking about that if

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we find it can we kill it and if there's

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two can we shoot both of them or

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something yeah the kids were sure if it

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is a new species or whatever the hell

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was for his aliens clothes it's not

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unlikely the Bigfoot story with that

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that new Bigfoot story is killing

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Bigfoot where it is legal to kill a

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Bigfoot what or they outlawed it I don't

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know is it

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I think I don't know if it's up for

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debate in Louisiana or it's good

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ambiguous legally ambiguous in Oklahoma

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it's legal yeah go to Oklahoma if you

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want to kill cryptids they is fair game

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out there you start a restaurant and

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work on a business plan now you can do

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this yeah dream big dream big kill mini

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Bigfoot in Mothman now a Mayans first

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and leaner in culinary arts in this next

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clip this where it gets a little strange

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where the cryptid kind of world of

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Mothman intersects with paranormal alien

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encounters here we go Joe

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hold on Janice hold on to your butts

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well do the Mothman incidents weren't

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the only unusual events taking place in

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West Virginia during 1966 on November

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2nd

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a man named woodrow derenberger is

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accosted on highway 77 while driving

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home from Parkersburg West Virginia his

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antagonist is the occupant of an

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unidentified flying object which lands

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on the road in front of him the being

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speaks to derenberger telepathically

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referring to himself as and criticals

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much like the Mothman stories would just

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two weeks later injured Cole draws

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national media attention as derenberger

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calmly and matter-of-factly relays the

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details of his encounter to reporters

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today he stands is one of the most

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fascinating UFO stories on record also

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on November 2nd in nearby gallup allah

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so hyoe the woman is outside that she

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sees a bright flash in the sky above her

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she looks up in time to see a massive

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cylinder shaped object appear in a

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downward trajectory the object lands in

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parking lot and toon plane dressed men

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exit the craft proceeded to ask her a

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series of questions in a bizarre dialect

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at the same time two men traveling on

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highway 77 near Parkersburg in the same

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vicinity as woodrow derenberger have

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their own brush with a man who sounds

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suspiciously like Indrid cold or as they

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referred to him the grinning man it's a

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pretty bizarre [\h__\h] men in black you

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have flying moth men creatures and

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people encountering these are these

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people in real life

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so this Indrid cold guy there's a lot of

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information out there so he in this in

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that clip the the person who encountered

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injured cold the men in black said he

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had a story to tell so what the [\h__\h] was

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his story well according to some reports

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that Ingrid Cole this man in black came

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from a planet named lanu luo Berliner oh

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and the germ Eddy's galaxy and that

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there were two other granny men with him

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by the name of demo

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Essen and Karl are dough can you believe

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that so these men in black that we see

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pop up at UFO events are actually aliens

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themselves coming down here I mean this

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goes with the Bigfoot stuff we talked

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about with them being sort of the

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sentries that they kind of send down

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wasn't that the theory from one of the

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accounts that we were looking into

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that's uh one is like I read that in the

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the Pennsylvania of sightings book that

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I left your house clown baby is that I

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think his name is

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I forget the Stan Gordon that he has ran

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in at least in Pennsylvania has run into

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many different sightings where now

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there's a Bigfoot around but there is a

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UFO around almost as if these cryptids

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these Bigfoot or even Mothman are

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possibly Scouts that's the conclusion I

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came to that their boots on the ground

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maybe these malt men are wings in the

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air who knows when what if I mean just

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to get crazy with it what if they're

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like actually harvesting critters like

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you look at like the Star Wars Cantina I

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know it's a stupid example you have all

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these wacky looking critters and if

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you're coming from galaxies where you

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can go into hyperspace and we believe

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the alien technology so far advanced

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that you literally could traverse

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galaxies you know and the time it would

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take us to go down to the gas station

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then if they could be just picking up

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you know it'd be like picking up like a

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feral dogs in Mexico you know and then

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going out to going over to Sweden and

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setting them loose and just seeing what

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happens I think that's as valid theory

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as any you're gonna do a genetic

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experimentation you have to set it loose

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in the wild and see what happens a lot

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of these the Mothman reports and

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sightings happen around an abandoned

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munitions factory in a team tea plant

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and it's this kind of weird there's a

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lot of interaction there's a lot of

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reports but there is a creature out

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there and these people who are reporting

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it firmly believe what they see

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especially with this men in black

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encounter with Indian coal and some

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other

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there's a couple different three four

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different sightings all relating back to

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this guy all kind of similar features in

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acting and very peculiar way I don't

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think your genetic experimentation is

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too far off why not I mean if you're

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going to if you're if you have the

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ability and you make a creature why not

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set a list whether it is the US military

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doing it or an alien civilization what

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does it matter at that point the US

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military's probably got to keep it

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confined but ultimately they're gonna

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want to use it as a weapon and see what

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happens so they're going to want to turn

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it loose in some way so why not let it

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loose on your own population and

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especially if you're Nathan civilization

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what do you care about a bunch of humans

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but oh especially that's for you you

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think about like some of the dumb [\h__\h]

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we talked about on the show before that

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the United States military wanted to do

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like let's look put a nuke on the moon

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you know it blow up the moon it's like

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let's just see what happens you know

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who's to say the aliens aren't like and

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[\h__\h] it is a bunch of dumb bastards who

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are arguing about over who's more racist

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than the other let's just send some of

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those Bigfoot that we picked up on you

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know whatever planet see what happens

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with them drop them down there and

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nothing happens great if they happen to

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take over town and rise up great you

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know it's not how many other clips did

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you have you had one where it covers

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John keel coming down to investigate

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some of this stuff laughs I just have I

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have two more clips one is an actual

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eyewitness encounter of the Mothman and

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then another one about the Mothman fest

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I don't want to play too much I mean

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there is an entire documentary out there

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iíd recommend people buy it it is worth

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your time it's very intriguing you'll

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learn a lot about this if you're if

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you're new to like the Bigfoot and

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Mothman and all these kind of crazy

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stories this is actually a nice kind of

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intro to it it's very well done so I'll

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play just two more clips here and then

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we can move on this one is a story about

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a man encountering mouth man there were

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various reports of the Mothman sightings

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of being of a super and

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nature almost a mental type vision of

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whatever this thing was I lived up on

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Jefferson Avenue sports my wife and I on

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we were about 19 years old I think at

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the time we went to bed at night the bed

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the way the bed was it was a window on

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my left and sometime in the night and it

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seems to me I he was about three o'clock

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and I was facing that window and I

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looked out the window and looked out the

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streetlight it was a crossing I remember

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to think that it was a car I'm gonna

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cross the crossing and I turned my head

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was right I mean I could still feel that

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it really hurt my head to the right

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and there this to me it was the devil

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Multi man standing there by my bed and I

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just sort of froze up and I tried to

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talk

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and i couldn't've this awful horrible

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feeling and I thought Lord what to do

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this this thing is here must this evil

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presence and it was standing there and

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it had a body about six feet tall or the

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dirty lunar color and see any buttons or

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zippers or anything like that but it was

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a grey form like a solid robe and then

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without seeing the down the arm then the

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hands were down or whatever their own is

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orient they kind of disappeared a lot of

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intimacy then and red eyes and kind of

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you know I can feel that it was this

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evil 100% evils

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[Music]

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so I will cut it right there it's uh

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okay interesting stuff very interesting

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stuff he calls it a demon I mean that's

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in his opinion this guy called her demon

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and then said the Lord's Prayer and this

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thing kind of faded away and I've read

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that kind of account many times were

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people who encounter whether it's a gray

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alien or some kind of weird ghost or DD

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or something like that they'll say the

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Lord's prior and this thing will go away

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as if invoking Jesus Christ has some

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kind of special power oh please

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gay men I'm just reporting what I hear I

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read all of the you know alien creatures

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encrypted they all understand the power

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of Christ and I can tell her mhmmm

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they're all the same thing now okay no

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hey you know I don't know I don't know I

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don't know I'm just saying like I doubt

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if aliens come down to this plant or

540
00:23:57,500 --> 00:23:52,770
Bigfoot comes around is like he's scared

541
00:23:59,300 --> 00:23:57,510
off because look Jesus I mean Dracula I

542
00:24:03,370 --> 00:23:59,310
can understand because he is of this

543
00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:03,380
earth and he is demonic arguably

544
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:06,480
absolutely aliens I they give a damn I

545
00:24:14,590 --> 00:24:10,250
have one final clip here and here we go

546
00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:14,600
the Mothman festival came about back in

547
00:24:19,620 --> 00:24:16,720
2003

548
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:19,630
as a way to capitalize a little bit on

549
00:24:23,940 --> 00:24:22,690
the movie the Mothman Prophecies and you

550
00:24:27,090 --> 00:24:23,950
know get some people to come downtown

551
00:24:29,549 --> 00:24:27,100
you know help out the merchants and the

552
00:24:31,799 --> 00:24:29,559
downtown stores and things like that and

553
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:31,809
15 years later it's going to be one of

554
00:24:36,539 --> 00:24:33,610
the biggest vessels in the state West

555
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:36,549
Virginia we draw crowds of 10,000 plus

556
00:24:48,100 --> 00:24:44,230
there are a lot of people who like the

557
00:24:52,660 --> 00:24:48,110
festival and and they like the Mothman

558
00:24:56,340 --> 00:24:52,670
museum now there's a few in the

559
00:24:58,890 --> 00:24:56,350
community there are a few skeptics

560
00:25:05,640 --> 00:24:58,900
have you done come back I don't say who

561
00:25:07,110 --> 00:25:05,650
wants royalties working for me that's

562
00:25:07,860 --> 00:25:07,120
what it's all about that right there

563
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:07,870
isn't it

564
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:10,650
the festival and commerce down there ah

565
00:25:16,890 --> 00:25:13,450
that seems to be good right I like isn't

566
00:25:19,530 --> 00:25:16,900
Roswell like a giant UFO tourism place -

567
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:19,540
oh yeah definitely they got their

568
00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:21,610
tourism lock down they have festivals

569
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:24,400
they have all that kind of stuff so it

570
00:25:29,580 --> 00:25:27,250
makes good business sense for them to be

571
00:25:32,660 --> 00:25:29,590
involved and perpetuate the legend

572
00:25:36,900 --> 00:25:32,670
sightings and stories absolutely yeah

573
00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:36,910
yeah you want to actually come up with

574
00:25:42,540 --> 00:25:39,130
some stories get some witnesses who saw

575
00:25:46,470 --> 00:25:42,550
a Bigfoot or a Mothman smoking a joint

576
00:25:49,140 --> 00:25:46,480
and then they can legalize weed and have

577
00:25:51,900 --> 00:25:49,150
a cryptid festival and do like Colorado

578
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:51,910
but then with a multiplier yeah hey

579
00:25:56,970 --> 00:25:53,890
girls I got a ghost in my bed come check

580
00:26:00,360 --> 00:25:56,980
it out my bed haunted my back at a

581
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:00,370
haunted man I need help we're gonna have

582
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:02,050
to bounce on it repeatedly to get that

583
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:04,330
ghost out of there and bring beer tea we

584
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:12,480
well the Mothman festival is September

585
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:14,530
16th and 17th in Point Pleasant West

586
00:26:17,970 --> 00:26:16,210
Virginia

587
00:26:19,050 --> 00:26:17,980
y'all ought to go that's right up in

588
00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:19,060
your neighborhood you could all drive

589
00:26:23,370 --> 00:26:21,130
there relatively indeed matter day and

590
00:26:25,410 --> 00:26:23,380
Sunday because we could go down Friday

591
00:26:27,450 --> 00:26:25,420
and hit it up Saturday leave Sunday we

592
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:27,460
can go bar-hopping you kicked out of the

593
00:26:35,150 --> 00:26:31,090
festival it's like she good idea bring

594
00:26:38,910 --> 00:26:35,160
the recorder yeah let's get arrested

595
00:26:41,790 --> 00:26:38,920
there's OTT area bus tours all righty

596
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:41,800
let's do it just blow some [\h__\h] up over

597
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:42,970
there

598
00:26:52,510 --> 00:26:49,970
we're going to go hunting for Mothman do

599
00:26:55,930 --> 00:26:52,520
bong reps and hunt cryptids yeah

600
00:27:01,360 --> 00:26:55,940
bong rips for Mothman come on

601
00:27:03,580 --> 00:27:01,370
I got a smoke that bro damn man come on

602
00:27:06,010 --> 00:27:03,590
out of a hole I'm gonna do a little

603
00:27:08,770 --> 00:27:06,020
ecstasy with Mothman see what happens

604
00:27:09,610 --> 00:27:08,780
a little crazy a little crazed do some

605
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:09,620
bath salts

606
00:27:13,899 --> 00:27:11,450
well there's attractions enhancers

607
00:27:17,110 --> 00:27:13,909
vendors oh there's cosplay - good god

608
00:27:17,740 --> 00:27:17,120
guest speakers live bands bus tour live

609
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:17,750
bands

610
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:21,770
there Slayer flan ah let me check it out

611
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:23,210
mmm check

612
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:25,690
I wonder if I can book battle ax them

613
00:27:31,570 --> 00:27:29,570
and they're not not any major Aris

614
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:31,580
measure not listen anything right now it

615
00:27:35,770 --> 00:27:34,010
can't be that good it'd be great if like

616
00:27:38,130 --> 00:27:35,780
the Rolling Stones like to show their

617
00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:38,140
stone clean the Malta mint for their

618
00:27:45,010 --> 00:27:42,880
Madonna yeah my dad was playing Mothman

619
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:45,020
what kind of cosplayers I kind of just

620
00:27:48,580 --> 00:27:46,490
come their dresses like Star Trek or

621
00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:48,590
something doesn't matter I saw someone

622
00:27:55,690 --> 00:27:53,600
in ghostbusters great we just go as see

623
00:27:57,610 --> 00:27:55,700
the Blues Brothers yeah yeah no they're

624
00:27:58,840 --> 00:27:57,620
in Star Wars I do I see people in Star

625
00:28:01,779 --> 00:27:58,850
Wars right now so it's pretty much

626
00:28:03,460 --> 00:28:01,789
cosplay anything so nondenominational

627
00:28:06,370 --> 00:28:03,470
cosplay we don't even have to come and

628
00:28:08,890 --> 00:28:06,380
dress up as like Bigfoot or or Wolfe

629
00:28:12,430 --> 00:28:08,900
Manor or Mothman I mean we just go as

630
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:12,440
Nazis yeah loses West Virginia Nazis

631
00:28:19,570 --> 00:28:16,010
there you go not too far off pretty

632
00:28:21,930 --> 00:28:19,580
close so what Joe to wind this this

633
00:28:25,230 --> 00:28:21,940
segment up about Mothman what do you

634
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:25,240
what do you think's going on as the

635
00:28:32,110 --> 00:28:28,010
riptides skeptic here what do you think

636
00:28:33,970 --> 00:28:32,120
I just want to know what he tastes like

637
00:28:36,700 --> 00:28:33,980
with you know buffalo sauce or do you

638
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:36,710
want to roast this thing like is it an

639
00:28:42,430 --> 00:28:39,890
herb thing what do you do when you find

640
00:28:43,899 --> 00:28:42,440
it it's a he's like a bird man so I'm

641
00:28:45,820 --> 00:28:43,909
willing to take that chance if people

642
00:28:48,190 --> 00:28:45,830
will eat crickets and ants and these

643
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:48,200
kinds of things and I think it's worth

644
00:28:52,779 --> 00:28:51,289
while like tracking this sucker down and

645
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:52,789
then doing like you say you got to baste

646
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:55,250
it you got to lock in those flavors and

647
00:28:59,529 --> 00:28:56,330
let's see what happens then

648
00:29:08,860 --> 00:28:59,539
the science I like age and yeah for

649
00:29:11,830 --> 00:29:08,870
dinner exactly I like to eat one of

650
00:29:14,169 --> 00:29:11,840
those no you're breaking up a lot I

651
00:29:16,450 --> 00:29:14,179
don't know I just I do bill Jeff do you

652
00:29:18,850 --> 00:29:16,460
hear that yeah he just kind of drops off

653
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:18,860
yeah he kind of dropped for like a few

654
00:29:23,529 --> 00:29:20,809
seconds and then pops back up I'm not

655
00:29:25,450 --> 00:29:23,539
sure what's going on but we'll hang with

656
00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:25,460
it maybe it'll clear up this is the

657
00:29:30,419 --> 00:29:27,049
exact same thing I experienced last week

658
00:29:34,659 --> 00:29:30,429
yeah I don't know we'll deal with it uh

659
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:34,669
your isp throttle you Joe she has

660
00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:36,730
amazing eyes be down here in Austin I

661
00:29:45,009 --> 00:29:40,000
don't know I don't

662
00:29:48,340 --> 00:29:45,019
they're very for the same price you're

663
00:29:49,930 --> 00:29:48,350
lovable it's absolutely yeah you're

664
00:29:54,009 --> 00:29:49,940
you're like you're not finishing your

665
00:29:56,830 --> 00:29:54,019
sentences it's like I mean sometimes I

666
00:29:58,779 --> 00:29:56,840
would like to watch the movie and but

667
00:30:04,080 --> 00:29:58,789
sometimes when I will my favorite actor

668
00:30:06,580 --> 00:30:04,090
is Tom Cruise actually I invite my

669
00:30:09,330 --> 00:30:06,590
preference I change my own Skype

670
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:09,340
references with the don't I have that

671
00:30:18,669 --> 00:30:15,610
one preference were you a sort of auto

672
00:30:21,070 --> 00:30:18,679
yeah you can you can try that sure you

673
00:30:23,919 --> 00:30:21,080
can try to auto it and see that does

674
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:23,929
anything I think you're falling off

675
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:25,130
because if a microphone though

676
00:30:33,250 --> 00:30:28,690
let's Jeff let's not rule out variables

677
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:33,260
every variable is is true at this point

678
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:35,330
let's just write with our Italians

679
00:30:41,019 --> 00:30:38,210
yeah so I mean I hope that nothing gets

680
00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:41,029
cut off here and just say that I think

681
00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:42,710
you ended it well with the money-making

682
00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:45,710
name because I think people want

683
00:30:50,230 --> 00:30:48,110
attention I mean we live in victimhood

684
00:30:52,860 --> 00:30:50,240
culture obviously attention is a good

685
00:30:55,539 --> 00:30:52,870
thing so it's like oh you poor poor

686
00:30:57,580 --> 00:30:55,549
Muslims you know how are you relating

687
00:30:59,620 --> 00:30:57,590
this to [\h__\h] politics mind blasts a

688
00:31:02,169 --> 00:30:59,630
ditch and that I done with Mothman I

689
00:31:03,490 --> 00:31:02,179
know about I do think it relates or it's

690
00:31:05,350 --> 00:31:03,500
like it's just like we want attention

691
00:31:07,510 --> 00:31:05,360
and so it's like first it starts with

692
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:07,520
like oh I got abducted or my kid got

693
00:31:12,580 --> 00:31:10,010
abducted or I saw a Bigfoot

694
00:31:15,730 --> 00:31:12,590
scared me or ate my dog or something and

695
00:31:18,430 --> 00:31:15,740
you get attention and and that sort of

696
00:31:21,670 --> 00:31:18,440
starts like what Mike Hussein at the

697
00:31:23,470 --> 00:31:21,680
small town gossip thing and geez Jeff

698
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:23,480
could you [\h__\h] rage a little harder

699
00:31:31,620 --> 00:31:28,130
ya rage Jeff and everybody likes

700
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:31,630
attention negative or positive and yeah

701
00:31:36,940 --> 00:31:34,610
if you can turn it into a money-making

702
00:31:38,890 --> 00:31:36,950
scheme like Roswell is obviously done

703
00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:38,900
like I mentioned with Colorado with the

704
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:41,120
weed tourism son say is like just

705
00:31:45,460 --> 00:31:42,890
combine the two and saying you know

706
00:31:47,980 --> 00:31:45,470
Bigfoot is a giant [\h__\h] Rastafarian

707
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:47,990
he's not you know he's got dreads

708
00:31:52,300 --> 00:31:50,210
actually that's why he looks as hairy

709
00:31:54,070 --> 00:31:52,310
and crazy as he did I was because he's

710
00:31:56,380 --> 00:31:54,080
actually smoking weed he is the king of

711
00:31:57,970 --> 00:31:56,390
Rasta and then you know turn this all

712
00:31:59,830 --> 00:31:57,980
into a festival legalize weed and then

713
00:32:01,060 --> 00:31:59,840
make a whole thing of it because that's

714
00:32:02,890 --> 00:32:01,070
what I'm if the whole there's a whole

715
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:02,900
festival around Mothman windup why the

716
00:32:08,350 --> 00:32:07,010
hell not um I I can I can buy that but

717
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:08,360
just because there's a festival around

718
00:32:12,130 --> 00:32:10,130
it doesn't negate that people actually

719
00:32:14,110 --> 00:32:12,140
saw something real it's I mean you're

720
00:32:15,580 --> 00:32:14,120
walking a fine line there and I know

721
00:32:17,620 --> 00:32:15,590
people want to capitalize off of

722
00:32:20,710 --> 00:32:17,630
everything and just because Hollywood

723
00:32:22,990 --> 00:32:20,720
makes movies about aliens doesn't mean a

724
00:32:25,810 --> 00:32:23,000
means do not exist but I get your point

725
00:32:28,090 --> 00:32:25,820
I I don't know if I agree with how you

726
00:32:30,460 --> 00:32:28,100
apply it to politics maybe just maybe

727
00:32:32,110 --> 00:32:30,470
gloss over that a little bit but I'll

728
00:32:33,340 --> 00:32:32,120
let they go up to listen back and play

729
00:32:36,780 --> 00:32:33,350
back you probably made a very valid

730
00:32:40,420 --> 00:32:36,790
point that isn't listened to or did you

731
00:32:42,340 --> 00:32:40,430
I just said everybody likes attention no

732
00:32:44,260 --> 00:32:42,350
attention fever positive but I would

733
00:32:47,140 --> 00:32:44,270
love to see I think ultimately I think I

734
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:47,150
go back to something you always say if

735
00:32:52,210 --> 00:32:49,130
you have a cell phone like everybody

736
00:32:54,820 --> 00:32:52,220
[\h__\h] does and you saw Bigfoot but

737
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:54,830
where the [\h__\h] is the footage there's

738
00:32:58,540 --> 00:32:56,930
not a lot of it out there not a lot of

739
00:33:00,030 --> 00:32:58,550
convincing Twitter jumping that's for

740
00:33:02,230 --> 00:33:00,040
damn sure